It's time for episode 294 of the Clockwise Podcasts from Relay FM, recorded Wednesday, May 15th, 2019.

Clockwise, Four People podcast where Times the Twist.

I am one of your co-hosts, Micah Sargent, and I am joined across the vast and ever-changing

internet by my co-host and good pal. It's Dan Morin.

How you doing, Dan? I'm doing well. I didn't realize there was a twist ending to this podcast.

I was shocked. Shocked, I tell you. You could never be prepared. But I am prepared to introduce two

awesome guests today. Well, one of them at least. To my left is the

podcaster for CestraCast, the podcaster for friends in your ears and the pod, one of two podcasters

for Robot Unicorn FM as well as the business unicorn.

Kathy Campbell, you have so many titles. Wow. How are you today? I'm doing well. I have so many

titles, so many things going on. I don't know. I never know what to introduce myself as.

So thank you for introducing me for me for me for me and

I'm going to stop now. You know for me to you for me and you to you and me exactly.

Yes, exactly. Cool. editing this show is going to be fine. I'm sorry. And I would like to introduce

the second of our two guests today. To my left is a veteran developer of software

for Mac and iOS, an occasional writer, a conference speaker, and sometimes he's even on

podcast with me. It's James Thompson. Hi, James. How you doing? Well, I'm glad to be back on the

official Black Mirror podcast of positive technology stories. I did not get a memo.

That's the twist.

Oh, that's the twist.

We have four topics.

We've got 30 minutes, and I'm ready to get things kicked off.

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