Welcome back to the Dungeon Master's block, the place where we come to talk about the Dungeon Master, the most important person in the game.

With every conversation we hope to inspire as many as possible

to keep on dungeon mastering.

And I'm one of your host, DM Neal, aka Jote Moniac.

And I'm one of your other hosts, DM Derek, aka How Not to DM.

And today we are going to be talking with Nick Perrin from Tabletopped about a contentious topic

is divisive.

As divisive is GIF versus GIF.

Is it artificer or artificer?

No, but we're going to be talking about...

Or artiviser.

Yeah, Artiviser. But we're going to be talking about a class. Once again, it's been too long since we talked about a class. One of the classics. And we decided to go with Artifacer, which is honestly probably one of the most debated as to whether or not it should be in your game, and we're going to talk all about it.

Oof, and we dig into that debate ourselves even a little bit.

It's going to be a good episode, Neil.

Before we jump in, we want to thank some of our new patrons, number one, to Gotan of the Storm Reaper clan, a new bronze dragon patron.

Thank you, Gotan. No, I just see myself. I know, I new bronze dragon patron. Thank you, Gotan.

No, I just see myself.

I know, I know.

Going super sane.

That's an excellent name.

Go tan.

So, dear patrons, as I said last time, there are going to be multiple how not to DM style short interviews that should just be popping directly up into your Patreon podcast feed and

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