Hello, everybody. I'm really excited to bring you today's episode with Alicia Bagnano of Bully.

But first, my friend and collaborator, Mary Latimore and I caught up over the phone to discuss her excellent new album, Silver Ladders, which is now out and available everywhere.

Hello. Hey, Mary. It's Joe.

Hey, Joe.

How's it going?

Pretty good.

How are you?

I'm all right.

It's a big week for you.

Tell the people why.

My record is coming out on Friday.

Your new record entitled Silver Ladders, which will be released by Ghostly

International Records, correct? Yes. I remember when you were talking about making this record,

and it seems like it was a decade ago, but it was probably just a matter of months or sometime last year,

right? Totally. And just just recording it i recorded it in

january and even that just feels like years ago it's so crazy what was different about the

recording process on this album versus everything you've done up until now um I haven't really, for my solo stuff,

I haven't really gone in with a producer

into like a professional studio.

Or like, I don't know,

worked with a producer seriously who was,

you know,

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