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🗓️ 3 September 2025
⏱️ 111 minutes
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Therapy can wait—pop culture can’t. Lauren and Chanler unpack With Love, Megan (why José Andrés is the missing co-host), the Pamela Anderson × Liam Neeson “PR bake-off,” why couple-prank TikToks feel like Dante’s 9th circle, a viral aesthetician chemical-peel horror story, Brittany Mahomes’ 30th with Taylor in Nashville vs. Selena’s Cabo bachelorette, and the latest Kris Jenner/Corey Gamble breakup rumblings. Tech gremlins struck mid-record…so we’re unlocking our joyous Taylor Swift × Travis Kelce engagement special (timeline, ring, and Ed Kelsey revelations). Vote in our Spotify poll for next deep dive!
Chapter Timestamps
00:00 — Therapist on hold; Lauren’s solo PR weekend & With Love, Megan ☕️
02:30 — Why the show needs a high-energy foil (enter José Andrés) ✨
05:00 — Pamela × Liam: PR stunt…or PR about a PR stunt? 🎬
14:00 — TikTok “I pranked my husband” couples = actual nightmare 📱
19:30 — The Beverly Hills chemical-peel disaster & safety PSA 🧪
24:10 — Brittany’s 30th: Taylor in Nashville vs. Selena’s Cabo trip 🎉
27:10 — Kris & Corey rumor mill, NDAs, and “payday” threats 💼
34:00 — Tech issues → unlocked: Taylor & Travis engagement special 💍
35:30 — Backyard proposal, timeline, and first reactions 🥂
38:00 — Chandler sees the engagement news mid–Q&A, Lauren in therapy 📱
41:00 — Group chat chaos: only two on FaceTime at first 🫠
43:30 — Champagne at 10 a.m.; heteronormative jokes & name-change debate 🍾
47:00 — Proposal vibe: private, cozy, not performative 🌳
50:00 — Engagement timeline decoded: why now ⏳
52:30 — Ed Kelsey’s viral quote: “She was getting antsy” 🗣️
55:00 — Reading the photos: backyard setting, candid feel 📸
58:00 — Headphone-crease Easter egg & Swiftie sleuthing 🔍
1:01:00 — Why Travis works: antidote to Taylor’s brooding-artist exes ❤️
1:04:00 — The ring: vintage aesthetic, Swift-coded style 💎
1:08:00 — Family lore: Swift & Kelsey group chat reactions 👨👩👧👦
1:11:00 — Wrapping the joy: Taylor’s new “domestic, happy” era 🌟
1:12:00 — Proposal vibes revisited: cozy backyard details 🌳
1:15:00 — Timing theories: career windows, 2-year milestone, tour break ⏰
1:18:00 — Ed Kelsey quote unpacked: Swiftie reactions 🗣️
1:22:00 — Close-reading leaked pics: candid vibes & headphone crease 📸
1:26:00 — Why Travis balances Taylor’s past loves ❤️
1:30:00 — Ring deep dive: cut, carat, vintage inspiration 💍
1:34:00 — Family group chat lore & reactions 👨👩👧👦
1:38:00 — Wrapping with joy: Taylor’s fairytale moment 🌟
1:41:00 — Engagement euphoria cool-down: what this means for her next era ✨
1:47:00 — Back to With Love, Meghan: struggle to fill content, “thank God for Taylor’s engagement” 🥂
1:48:00 — Brutal timing: teaser same day as New Heights pod + engagement on premiere 📺💔
1:49:00 — Not “Meghan-coded,” just bad luck; no Harry, only crew at finale 🎥
1:49:30 — Meghan × cameraman (glasses guy) = more chemistry than guests 😂👓
1:50:00 — Rosewater spray = rare fun sparkle ✨🌹 → sign-off: “Love you guys, see you Wednesday!”
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| 0:52.4 | Well, well, well, another episode of pop apologists. We're here to discuss everything that's happened in the last few days. Lauren, where do we begin? |
| 0:55.9 | Oh, Chandler, you know, I asked my therapist that very same question, okay? |
| 1:01.0 | On our first call, first meeting about two weeks ago, she said to me, you know, what would you like to talk about today? |
| 1:08.1 | And I said, Kira, where do we begin? |
| 1:10.6 | Okay. Where do we even start here? Honestly, I'm so happy for Kiarra because she now has |
| 1:17.4 | quite possibly a lifelong, you know, Herculean task before her, you know, with taking you on as a |
| 1:23.7 | client. Way to get that check, Yara. |
| 1:28.6 | What are you trying to say here? |
| 1:30.2 | I'm just kidding. |
| 1:30.9 | That I might need lifelong therapy to even somewhat, you know, get past the tip of the |
| 1:37.0 | iceberg of my issues. |
| 1:38.8 | You're a late in life therapy believer? |
| 1:41.1 | That's all. |
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