292: Non Stick Pam
#SistersInLaw
Politicon
4.9 • 10.2K Ratings
🗓️ 4 April 2026
⏱️ 82 minutes
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Kimberly Atkins Stohr hosts #SistersInLaw to discuss Trump’s firing of Attorney General Pam Bondi by exploring her legacy, the reasons for her dismissal, how it affects the Justice Department, and the Senate confirmation process to fill the position. Then, the #Sisters review the legality of Trump’s executive order on birthright citizenship in the SCOTUS case Trump v. Barbara, explain the positions of the government and the ACLU, and game out the ramifications of the case. They also cover the recent court ruling declaring Trump’s executive order to cut funding from public media like NPR and PBS unconstitutional.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to hashtag Sisters in Law with Joyce Fants, Barb McQuaid, Jill Wine Banks, |
| 0:17.7 | and me, D. John Sauer. No, it's, it's Kim Atkins' store, but I do have a raspy voice today because it's the first week of |
| 0:28.0 | April. And for those of you who know here in D.C. our cherry blossoms are at peak, but when that happens, |
| 0:35.6 | so is my hay fever. So I ask your forgiveness as we get through |
| 0:40.1 | this show, because I did not want to miss it because a lot happened in this week newswise. |
| 0:46.2 | And I just wanted to see my sisters and hash through it all. And I wanted to be here to make |
| 0:52.6 | sure that you know that in Denver, Colorado, folks, |
| 0:56.4 | we are coming at you. On April 23rd, we will be at the Servantes masterpiece. And on May 3rd, |
| 1:04.5 | we are going to Atlanta, where we will play the Buckhead Theater, right? As I said, on May 3rd. So get your tickets. You can get them at |
| 1:14.2 | politicon.com slash tour. Get them quick. Our tours are known to sell out, but we want to see |
| 1:22.1 | there both out in the mountains and down in Atlanta. |
| 1:35.3 | And that leads me to something else that's really exciting, which is we're on YouTube. For those of you who are listening where you normally get your pods, you can now see us as we talk about these topics right here on YouTube topics like we're talking about this week, |
| 1:47.4 | Pam Bondi being out. We were talking about the birthright citizenship arguments at the Supreme Court, |
| 1:53.5 | and we're talking about a ruling against President Trump when it comes to funding public media. |
| 1:59.9 | But we're doing it all on camera now. You guys, |
| 2:02.6 | are you excited about this, Jill? I am. I guess it's a new thing for us and it's fun because we get |
| 2:10.8 | to see each other every week, even though we don't broadcast it. But now everybody can see us |
| 2:16.4 | and how silly we act and how we interact and how we love each |
| 2:20.1 | other. |
| 2:20.5 | So it's really good. |
| 2:22.4 | What do you think, Joyce? |
| 2:24.0 | You know, I'm the least photogenic of the sisters. |
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