I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

their story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure

I could touch but never hold

Hey everybody, you're listening to the Soberful podcast

And I am joined today by Diane Bell

Hi, Diane, welcome to the podcast.

Hi, Veronica.

Thank you so much for having me. You're welcome. Now, Diane. Welcome to the podcast. Hi, Veronica. Thank you so much for having me.

You're welcome. Now, Diane is interesting. As soon as I looked at your stuff, I thought, oh, yeah,

we'll get her on. Diane is a, well, your award-winning screenwriter and director. We were put together by another friend of art mine who's also written a screenplay and also

on a big personal development journey and six years sober right correct yes wow yeah okay well

lots to talk about there we're going to talk about like the film industry and kind of representations

and all that kind of stuff but i'd love to start with like you know how so. But we're both sort of a similar age and both your Scottish or I'm English. Like I know what our drinking culture is like. Yes. Yes. Tell me a little bit about your drinking. I mean, I grew up totally, you know, with a family who are like, if you don't have a drink in your hand, there's something wrong with you.

Right.

And of course, like, take a drink.

Take a drink, as they would say in Scotland, you know?

And it's like, that's the most normal thing.

And, you know, alcohol for me was something that I had an incredibly unhealthy relationship with when I was very young, you know, in my late teens and into

my 20s, definitely binge drinking and awful. And slowly over my adult life, I gained control over it.

That's the way I think of it, right? It's like, you know, it's like control my drinking. Because

I remember once dipping into an alcoholic's anonymous meeting,

probably in my late 20s thinking maybe I'm an alcoholic, maybe I have a problem with this,

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