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The New Evangelicals Podcast

291. TNE TALKS: "I Lived Through Project 2025" with Tia Levings

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics, Christianity

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2024

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary Tia Levins shares her experience growing up in Christian patriarchy and her journey to escape it. She discusses the influence of the quiver full movement and the pressure to have as many children as possible. Tia explains how she was mentored by women in the church who promoted quiver full ideals and the complementarian lifestyle. She also highlights the lack of counter information and the normalization of abuse within this culture. Tia's story serves as a warning about the dangers of extreme patriarchy and the need to resist it. Tia shares her experience of being in a high-control, patriarchal Christian environment and her journey to escape it. She discusses the challenges of living with a husband who had erratic behavior and the pressure to keep her newborn quiet. Tia explains how she internalized the violence and believed it was her fault. She also talks about the influence of the family-integrated church movement and the shift towards grooming young sons to become future leaders. Tia reveals the extreme practices she endured, including wife discipline, and the process of deconstruction and healing she went through after escaping. She emphasizes the importance of naming experiences and staying curious in spirituality. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 13:28 Transition to Extreme Patriarchy 23:49 Lack of Counter Information and Normalization of Abuse 27:15 The Influence of the Family-Integrated Church Movement 33:09 Extreme Practices: Wife Discipline 41:23 Escaping and the Process of Deconstruction 44:21 Reclaiming Spirituality on One's Own Terms Tia's Book | A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian Patriarchy ______________ REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to the new Evangelicals Podcast.

0:03.2

Welcome to the new evangelicals talks. I'm Tim the host of this segment.

0:18.8

Join us every Monday as we talk to all different kinds of people at the

0:22.3

intersection of theology, politics, and culture, helping you navigate a better path forward in your faith.

0:30.0

Hey friends, yeah, wow, this will be a heavy but maybe one of the most powerful

0:39.7

stories I ever shared on the podcast. I had Tia Leavings on. She wrote the book A Well Trained Life, My Escape

0:47.0

from Christian Patriarchy. You know that if you listen to the show at all, we track Christian nationalism often.

0:53.6

We track things like the Quiverful Movement.

0:56.0

We track people who literally want to take women's suffrage away

1:00.8

in favor of household votes.

1:03.0

What if I told you that today's guest

1:05.6

is someone who lived through all of that

1:08.0

for decades?

1:09.0

Like, Kiverful, the whole nine, and escaped.

1:11.8

A literal escape, as T you will talk about in this episode.

1:15.4

This is not just a theologian or a scholar,

1:18.7

this is an actual human who lived this experience fully embodied in that world.

1:24.3

And we go through the origins, the thick of it,

1:27.5

and how she escaped.

1:28.6

So trigger warning, this is a very intense episode,

1:31.0

a lot of abuse talk and a lot of heavy themes but ma'am well worth

1:35.4

to listen so thank you so much friends for listening to this episode and for

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