We have lance, lance, Ramsey on the podcast today. If you don't know who he is,

check him out, Lance underscore him Ramsey, and add a 46 to the end of that

if you're on Instagram.

But I found him a few months ago

and he is a project manager for a home builder

in Nashville, Tennessee, and he has been doing these day

in the life videos, which I find really fun to watch.

He talks a little bit more specifically about how that he's changed his content. But he just he talks about it in a way that you know I think will resonate with a lot of people that want to get into this industry and not and don't have a clear understanding as to how they can be a project manager.

And he documents in a really in a really fun way.

So we talked to him and how he got into the industry.

And he also, what was he going to be?

A cartographer.

He was a cartographer.

Cartograph is probably something else.

I think that's made up.

I think that's a mix between cartographer and cotorizing maybe.

I don't know what I'm on.

Cauterizing.

Where are you? You just said cotograph.

Yeah, I think it's a product.

I think it's a product of a cartographer.

A cartograph?

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