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secure. You know, their family says you need to get to America, go work for eight years. The amount of

money you can make in eight years, you can bring it back and your family set down here for the

rest of their life. They don't want to move their family. They don't want to move their wife and

their kids. They like the culture they have.

They might not like the, you know, the Mexican government, but in their, in their town, they

have a place that, that they grew up and they consider home. And so that person sometimes over

here is referred to as a, you know, military age male and they're all coming in to be, to be

negative. And I don't think that's the case

but how do we give that person the ability to get you know work visa or some type of in

and they're on a probation status you know hey you come here and you work can you pay your taxes

that's great we vet them a little bit more I don't know what the answer is but, I think, if we solved that problem and we gave the good people a way to get in, we could focus a whole lot more on the bad people trying to sneak across.

Let's go.

Welcome to CIS. We got a special guest today. Joby Dickinson. You are with, what's the name of that organization, BSA, Border Security Alliance. We just had one of your other members on pretty recently to talk about some of this border stuff. Unfortunately, been the case for some amount of time now we've got yet another story this weekend of the actual fallout

from this stuff before we get into all that how's it going uh and where are you right now good thanks for

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