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The Symbolic World

291 - Heather Pollington - The Art Behind 'Snow White and the Widow Queen'

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8 β€’ 824 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 6 June 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

I had an interview with the wonderful artist, Heather Pollington. Together we created a book called 'Snow White and the Widow Queen' that is currently being crowdfunding through Kickstarter.
Here we take you through our creative process, the inspiration behind the illustrations, and our grand vision for this and upcoming fairy tale projects.

YouTube version: https://youtu.be/DFtACMCLMwA
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I believe what we're offering here is an important course correction in modern storytelling. Simultaneously rooted in classic tropes but also enjoying the best techniques that modern and postmodern storytelling has to offer, 'Snow White and the Widow Queen' begins an extended journey into a fairy tale world of cross-overs and repeating themes.
We're telling the story in a different way: celebrating β€” not subverting β€” approaching classic stories not with cynicism or political moralizing, but with awe, love, and attention to the pattern.
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This video was released to my email list as a sneak peek last week.
Support the crowdfunding campaign: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/symbolicworldpress/snow-white-and-the-widow-queen
Heather's website: https://www.heatherpollington.com/
Our previous discussion about her redesign of The Symbolic World logo: https://youtu.be/tzpvLekXy6U
The music was done by the one and only Dirt Poor Robins: @dirtpoorrobins
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Snow White intro
00:01:03 - Introduction
00:05:30 - What brought Heather to this project
00:07:51 - Iconography and artistic language
00:12:01 - The language Jonathan uses
00:14:38 - The world of fairy tale illustration
00:16:12 - The golden age
00:18:29 - Previous iterations of Snow White
00:21:40 - Heather's research
00:22:26 - The cover of the book
00:23:47 - A Christian dream world
00:29:56 - Dormition
00:33:19 - Mirror mirror and social media
00:38:11 - The prince and the castle
00:40:53 - Framing
00:42:22 - The cycle
00:44:46 - The dwarves' house
00:45:31 - The Witch and the Apple
00:46:51 - The Kickstarter
00:48:35 - What's ahead
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0:00.0

Once upon a time, the queen of a certain kingdom was barren. Though she wished it more than anything, she could not have a child. She kept her sadness hidden in songs and kindness, but the king could discern her suffering through the smiles.

0:24.1

For years, she kept her tears to herself, her heart secretly praying for her long-desired child.

0:31.2

One day on the feast of candle moss, a crow perched in a tree just above her in the garden.

0:37.1

Startled in her mending, the queen pricked her finger, and a drop of her blood fell on to the pristine snow.

0:43.7

She knew at that moment that she would have a child, that her prayers had been answered.

0:48.6

She would give birth to the most beautiful girl in the world, with skin as white as the virgin snow, with lips as red as blood,

0:56.7

and with hair as black as coal.

1:16.6

This is Jonathan Pajot. Welcome to the symbolic world. So hello, everyone. I'm very excited today because we are going to present you the Snow White Project, which is coming out on Kickstarter next week, June 6th. As you know, I started working. We've been working on in this for several months with Heather Pollington, who's here with me. And so I'm, you know, we're all both really nervous because this is like our little baby

1:47.6

that we've been working on for a long time.

1:50.2

And, you know, in some ways we're really doing something that is both very strange and

1:54.9

surprising, but then also something which is a fairy tale, like a fairy tale like everybody

2:00.3

knows about. So what we want to do

2:02.4

is we want to go through some of the reasons why we're doing this, why we're doing Snow White,

2:08.5

you know, why we're also doing this series of fairy tales and why we're doing it now. So first of all,

2:12.9

Heather, thanks for joining me. You're welcome. It's good to be here. Yeah.

2:22.8

And so Heather and I, we met several months ago before we did the Snow White Project.

2:26.6

You know, she helped me with the rebranding of the symbolic world, as you know.

2:30.2

And I told her about this project that I was working on.

2:36.1

And so for several years now, I've been thinking about fairy tales. I've been thinking about them very much inside the symbolic world, comparing them to Bible stories, comparing them to myth,

2:41.7

and realizing to what extent, you know, there's just a range, there's just a scale between

2:47.9

Bible stories, myths, and fairy tales. They're really of the same nature.

2:51.9

It's just that some are more fantastical. You know, fairy tales can be more whimsical, fantastical.

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