Hello and welcome back to True Crime Guys podcast.

I'm your host, Michael, and I had to bring Andy here with me today because he apparently knows quite a bit about this case.

Michael, it's safe to say you abducted me for this case?

I abducted you for this case, and I think you were the perfect person to abduct.

Yes.

Although kind of heavy, but it was worth it for your knowledge. I put up quite the fight. He did. He did. But guys, before we get into this case today, I got to remind you that you can catch these episodes early and ad-free on Patreon. Patreon.com slash true crime guys. And it's a great way to support the show. We appreciate it very,

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But today we're doing something a little different on the show, Andy.

Of course, you know, we're doing an alien abduction.

And the reason I thought about doing it is because a lot of people, or the reason I am justifying doing it,

rather, okay, is that a lot of people consider this a hoax, right? And hoaxes are illegal. So,

boom, there, crime. Crime? Yeah, that's crime. That's crime enough, right? How is this a crime?

Yeah, you guys are going to be saying that probably the whole episode. But it's interesting, nonetheless.

Roll that intro, Andy.

All right.

All right.

We go. We'll be lying if I said it wasn't ever on my mind.

At least some of the time. And I'd be lying if I said it wasn't ever on my mind,

at least some of the time.

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