290 | the redemption episode

Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew

Shawn Johnson + Andrew East

Society & Culture

5 • 39.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

we decided to dedicate this episode of the podcast to a topic that’s both messy and powerful: redemption and second chances. in this episode, we talk through real-life examples, unpack what it actually means to see someone grow and change, and explore how to recognize when a second chance is deserved versus when boundaries need to stay in place. it’s a conversation about the complexity of human relationships, the courage it takes to offer grace, and the unexpected ways redemption can show up when you least expect it. we dive into the messy, emotional, and ultimately hopeful process of giving people the opportunity to do better—and what that can teach all of us about empathy, trust, and forgiveness. Love you guys, Shawn and Andrew Nurture Life ▶ head to https://www.NurtureLife.com/EASTFAM and use code EASTFAM for 55% off your first order PLUS free shipping. Branch Basics ▶ get yourself and your loved ones the gift of clean with Branch Basics. For a limited time only, our listeners get 15% off and free shipping on their premium Starter Pack when you use code EASTFAM at https://www.branchbasics.com/EASTFAM. Follow our podcast Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/shawnandandrewpods/ Follow My Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/ShawnJohnson Follow My Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnjohnson Shop My LTK Page ▶ https://www.shopltk.com/explore/shawnjohnson Like the Facebook page! ▶ https://www.facebook.com/ShawnJohnson Follow Andrew’s Instagram ▶ https://www.instagram.com/AndrewDEast Andrew’s Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@andrewdeast?lang=en Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	What's up, everybody?
0:01.0	Welcome back to a couple things.
0:02.3	With Sean and Andrew.
0:03.8	Today is another one of Andrews specialties, which is a philosophical, deep conversation
0:12.0	about redemption.
0:13.0	I'm having fun putting these together.
0:15.0	Yeah.
0:16.0	And I have a whole series put together.
0:18.0	We did an episode on why everyone is a bad choice to marry. And some people thought
0:22.6	that was the best episode we ever did. Wow. Some thought it made zero sense at all. And you know what?
0:27.3	I'm okay sitting in that tension. But today we're going to be talking about redemption.
0:33.5	And the reason why this is top of mind for me and maybe for you, Sean, we talked about how we're on this TV show called the Special Forces World's Toughest Test.
0:44.3	And so this cast had 18 people on it, including Sean and I.
0:48.0	Some were our friends here that we already knew from Nashville.
0:51.3	Others were people we had no idea who they were walking into this.
0:54.5	We kind of just talked about how it's so interesting to see people's repulsiveness
1:00.0	towards certain people on that cast.
1:02.9	Shocking.
1:03.8	And what we said in that episode was, you know what?
1:07.0	We don't need to like everybody, but we do need to respect everybody.
1:11.8	And some people, again, thought that that...
1:14.6	Double down.
	...

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