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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

290 | Hahrie Han on Making Multicultural Democracy Work

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

Sean Carroll | Wondery

Society & Culture, Physics, Philosophy, Science, Ideas, Society

4.84.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2024

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

It's a wonder democracy works at all -- a collection of people with potentially different interests have to agree to abide by majority vote even when it goes against their desires. But as we know, it doesn't always work, and racial and ethnic tensions are one of its biggest challenges. Hahrie Han studies the ground-up workings of democracy, how people can come together to successfully enact change. In her new book Undivided: The Quest for Racial Solidarity in an American Church, she investigates an example where democracy apparently has worked remarkably well, and asks what lessons we can draw from it.

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Hahrie Han recieved her Ph.D. in political science from Stanford University. She is currently the Director of the SNF Agora Institute, the Stavros Niarchos Foundation Professor of Political Science, and Faculty Director of the P3 Research Lab at Johns Hopkins University. She was named the Social Innovation Thought Leader of the Year by the World Economic Forum, is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and gave the 2024 Tanner Lectures on Human Values at Harvard University, among other awards.


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0:00.0

Who can I talk to?

0:01.7

Can anyone relate to what I'm going through?

0:05.0

Who else understands what it's like to have cancer?

0:08.5

Sometimes you don't want to talk about cancer with people you know.

0:12.0

You just want to talk with someone who knows

0:13.8

how you feel. Open 24-7, McMillan Cancer Support's online community is a safe

0:19.4

space to connect with people who understand what it's like to have cancer.

0:23.7

It's free to use and anonymous. From day one, whatever you need to get off your chest,

0:28.8

community members are available day and night to offer support on the online forum.

0:33.0

Talk openly and honestly with people who've been there too.

0:37.0

You're not in this alone.

0:38.0

We're here to help.

0:40.0

To join, search McMillan online community.

0:43.0

Hello everyone, welcome to the Mindscape Podcast.

0:45.0

I'm your host, Sean Carroll.

0:47.0

Here at Mindscape, we don't have that many hard and fast rules,

0:50.0

but we do have some tendencies, some preferences inclinations let's say and one of them is we don't do

0:56.8

politics that much in the conventional sense we don't invite

1:01.4

political candidates on to debate Republican versus Democratic talking points or whatever,

1:08.0

but we are interested in the ideas of politics, right, in political science, in the theory of democracy, things like that.

1:17.0

And sometimes the distinction between those two things, the dirty, get your hands messy, realization of politics in the actual world and the theory of politics,

1:29.2

the grand ideas that lay behind everything.

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