290: All Roads Lead To The Pentagon
#SistersInLaw
Politicon
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🗓️ 28 March 2026
⏱️ 79 minutes
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Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to analyze the growing threats to press freedom, focusing on the Pentagon’s restrictions on journalists during the Trump administration and a legal victory by the NYT granting journalists greater access to government officials on 1st Amendment grounds. Then, the #Sisters revisit the Anthropic case, examining the dangers of labeling companies as supply chain risks, the ethics of government AI use, and a preliminary injunction against the Pentagon. They also discuss recent jury verdicts against social media companies in New Mexico and California and their potential to drive corporate change.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to hashtag sisters-in-law with Joyce Vance, Jill Wine Banks, and me, Barb McQuaid. |
| 0:17.1 | Kim will be back next week, and we already miss her. |
| 0:20.1 | Just wanted to remind our listeners that we'll be doing live shows in Denver, Colorado, at the Servantes' masterpiece on April 23rd, and at the Buckhead Theater in Atlanta, Georgia, on May 3rd. |
| 0:35.4 | We love these live shows. Not only is it really fun for us to be able to get together |
| 0:39.9 | in person, but we love the energy of the people who come out to the shows. So we hope you'll |
| 0:45.6 | join us. Tickets are available at politicon.com slash tour, and we can't wait to see you there. |
| 0:51.8 | We will have more live shows to announce very soon. |
| 0:55.6 | In today's show, we will be talking about the New York Times First Amendment victory over the Pentagon, |
| 1:02.3 | Anthropics preliminary injunction against the Pentagon, and jury awards that have been |
| 1:08.8 | returned against social media companies this week. |
| 1:12.4 | Pretty interesting. |
| 1:13.6 | But first, friends, sisters, I have to say I couldn't be happier because it is baseball season. |
| 1:21.8 | I love all sports, but there is no sport that tops baseball for me. |
| 1:26.6 | I just love it. |
| 1:27.3 | The Tigers had their opener on the road yesterday, and they had a big win against the San Diego Padres. And I just love it. You know, there was a writer for the Washington Post named Tom Boswell who wrote a column and then a book about why time begins on opening day. And I really have to say I share those sentiments. I love |
| 1:46.2 | baseball. It is part of my daily rhythm. And I really miss it when it's not going on. So how about you guys? |
| 1:52.3 | You like baseball? Joyce, are you a baseball fan? Shout out to Barb, our friend Laura Duffy, |
| 1:57.9 | Judge Duffy in San Diego, who's not nearly as delighted with the Padres |
| 2:01.9 | loss as you are, one of our former U.S. Attorney College. Sorry, Judge Duffy. And a listener of this |
| 2:07.5 | podcast. But, you know, Barb, I grew up in Los Angeles, and that meant because my granddad |
| 2:12.9 | was really into baseball. You guys would have loved each other. I spent a lot of time at Chavez |
| 2:18.2 | Ravine watching the Dodgers play. I remember getting to meet Casey Stengle as a kid. |
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