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29: Anti-Vax or Anti-Facts?

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4.9640 Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2019

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Do vaccines cause autism? That’s just one of the questions we’re debating this week. We get into the scientific roots of the Antivax movement, and figure out whether it’s really that dangerous to choose to leave a child unvaccinated. 

Whether you believe in vaccinations or not, there’s something for you in this episode. Have a listen, and hopefully you’ll learn something about both sides of this debate.

References and (a lot of) Further Reading 
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  4. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-33774181
  5. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/aug/23/russian-trolls-spread-vaccine-misinformation-on-twitter
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  7. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/autism/
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  14. https://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/news/herd-immunity-how-does-it-work
  15. https://www.nhs.uk/news/pregnancy-and-child/mmr-vaccine-does-not-cause-autism/
  16. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3757918/
  17. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/patient-ed/conversations/downloads/vacsafe-thimerosal-color-office.pdf
  18. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/andrew-wakefield-who-is-mmr-doctor-anti-vaccine-anti-vaxxer-us-a8328326.html
  19. https://www.nhs.uk/news/pregnancy-and-child/mmr-vaccine-does-not-cause-autism/
  20. https://www.nhs.uk/news/medication/no-link-between-mmr-and-autism-major-study-finds/
  21. https://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/news/herd-immunity-how-does-it-work
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  23. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3136032/
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  26. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/patient-ed/conversations/downloads/vacsafe-thimerosal-color-office.pdf
  27. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3757918/
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