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🗓️ 10 September 2025
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| 0:00.0 | If you want access to bonus episodes reading lists for every series of Empire, a chat community. |
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| 0:32.6 | Hello and welcome to Empire with me, Anita Arnhem. |
| 0:34.4 | And me, William Duremple. |
| 0:38.9 | And we hope you enjoyed this series on Sewers with Alex von Tundselman, |
| 0:42.5 | which I think is our most popular ever series, the first episode. |
| 0:47.3 | The Blockbuster. The Blockbuster. Absolutely. I just loved it. We had so many comments on Twitter, |
| 0:52.7 | particularly Alita's hot crush for Gamble Abdul Nasser, the pin-up. |
| 0:56.5 | What I found, actually, rather than NASA being very good-looking, |
| 0:58.0 | undisputably, very good-looking, |
| 1:01.4 | and we know it's undisputable because it got right up Anthony Eden's nose. |
| 1:05.9 | And, you know, what I loved was the psychodrama of the whole situation. |
| 1:08.6 | So, I mean, those of you haven't gone to listen, go back and listen. |
| 1:11.7 | Eden is completely convulsed with the idea that his younger, much younger, much prettier wife, may be falling under the thrall of a dashing NASA. |
| 1:19.4 | And I just, I love that with Alex. You know, you get this sort of the big characters of history, |
| 1:24.4 | but yeah, they're humans, aren't they, at the end of the day, flesh and |
| 1:27.7 | blood with all of the insecurities that we all carry. That's an extraordinary story. |
| 1:31.9 | Anyway, as you may be aware, because we've been putting it up online, we will soon be starting |
| 1:37.3 | another Middle Eastern series, and this is on the History of Gaza, which I don't think anyone has |
| 1:42.7 | done. I'd be looking online for, you know, any broadcaster in the world has actually done this, |
| 1:48.4 | which is bizarre considering it's been in the headlines of every single newspaper every day for the last two years. |
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