It's time for episode 289 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay FM recorded Wednesday, April 10th, 2019.

Clockwise, four people podcast that always circles back.

I am your co-host Dan Moran, and I am joined across this fine internet of ours by my co-host, Mr. Micah Sargent.

How are you doing today, Micah?

I'm doing quite well, Mr. Dan Mor Sargent. How are you doing today, Micah? I'm doing quite well,

Mr. Dan Moran. And, uh, you know, that intro, it kind of reminded me of the snack that smiles back.

So we are the podcast that circles back, goldfish. I mean, clockwise, clockwise, that's this.

I would do a podcast about goldfish is delicious. I dig it. This is, of course,

the podcast where we don't talk about goldfish, but we do talk about four tech topics with two

fantastic guests. To my left this week, it is a writer and an author of iOS Access for All,

plus a host of Parallel right here on the Relay FM Network. It is Shelley Brisbane. Welcome back, Shelly.

Thank you. Glad to be here. And to my left is the author of quite a number of books,

a photographer and columnist as well. It's Jeff Carlson. How are you doing, Jeff? I'm doing well.

How are you all? Just peachy. Very good. All the better with you both here.

Let's kick off today's show with my topic.

I read an interesting story over at 9 to 5 Mac looking at analytics in the app store and suggesting that people aren't as hungry for new apps as we used to be.

A lot of the stuff that stays at the top of the list are the older apps, and it doesn't

take any, like the amount it takes to hit the top of the list hasn't really changed much in

several years.

So I want to get your impressions on that.

Has your appetite for downloading new apps changed?

Do you find yourself downloading a lot of new apps still, or you just kind of stick with

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