287. Interesting Conversation with Julie and Melissa
Brave Writer
Julie Bogart and Melissa Wiley
4.8 • 927 Ratings
🗓️ 14 May 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Sometimes, the most meaningful conversations aren’t planned—they unfold.
In this week’s episode, we drop in on an unscripted, delightful catch-up between two close friends. From Julie’s recent retreat at Miraval (complete with clay turtles and 7 a.m. birdwatching) to Melissa’s college days giving prairie nature tours, this episode traces the kinds of stories and reflections that surface when we give ourselves time to notice.
We talk about how naming things builds intimacy, the role of repetition in learning (and music!), and why modeling beeswax might be the best-kept secret in home education. There are nods to Charlotte Mason, Lynda Barry, roadrunners, rereading A Room with a View, and a clay plaque that simply says “mama.”
Tune in for a rich, meandering conversation about creativity, nature, grief, and the quiet power of doing something more than once.
Resources:
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- Follow Lynda Barry on Instagram: @thenearsightedmonkey
- Purchase Julie’s new book, Help! My Kid Hates Writing!
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Connect with Julie:
- Instagram: @juliebravewriter
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- Bluesky: @bravewriter.com
- Facebook: facebook.com/bravewriter
Connect with Melissa:
- Website: melissawiley.com
- Substack: melissawiley.substack.com
- Instagram: @melissawileybooks
- Bluesky: @melissawiley.bsky.social
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| 0:51.8 | My God, we're already laughing and we have to start talking. |
| 0:56.5 | I know. This is one of those weeks where I just look so forward to coming and catching up with you. |
| 1:04.6 | Even if it's just regaling me with stories from your trip. So tell us about your trip, Julie. |
| 1:10.3 | Yeah, I just... so for those of you |
| 1:12.8 | who don't know, I was out of town with my business cohort. I'm a member of National Association |
| 1:18.9 | of Women's Business Owners, and I'm in a smaller group called The Circle. And these are for |
| 1:24.0 | businesses of a certain scale, all owned by women. And my little group has like seven or eight people in it. |
| 1:30.5 | But there were like 33 of us who were at that level who were at this retreat. |
| 1:35.4 | Retreat's the wrong word. |
| 1:36.7 | I think it was summer camp for parents, for adults. |
| 1:39.6 | It was just like... |
| 1:40.8 | That's the best kind. |
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