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285: Proctor Thought Death Was Caused by Fight & Proof Tail Light Was Smashed in The Sally Port?!

Serialously with Annie Elise

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🗓️ 6 June 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

We’re wrapping up another week in the Karen Read trial, and this one was packed with major developments. Proctor’s initial text messages reveal he believed John’s death was caused by a fight. New expert testimony suggests the taillight damage seen after the vehicle was moved to the sally port was significantly different from what was observed earlier that afternoon, raising serious questions about when—and how—the damage occurred. Plus, experts took the stand confirming that the wounds on John’s arm were consistent with dog bites. And after much anticipation, ARCCA finally testified. Let’s break it all down.

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0:00.0

Hey, true crime besties, welcome back to an all- new episode of Serialessly with me, Annie Elyse. Sorry, I'm like just in a very good mood. It's Friday. I'm wearing this like

0:39.9

tomato red sweater that is like blinding me in my monitors because it's so bright, but whatever.

0:46.2

I'm in a really good mood. My son had his kindergarten like not graduation, but like song this

0:51.8

morning at a little themed breakfast.

0:55.3

I'm just in a happy mood.

1:01.8

But what we are here to talk about today is not my color of my sweater or my son and his beautiful seashell song and his vocal ability.

1:05.6

But we're here to talk about the Karen Reid trial.

1:08.7

More specifically, everything that went down this

1:12.1

week in trial. And this week was incredibly important, not only because all of the testimony,

1:17.7

but because it is most likely the last full week we are going to have. It's estimated that

1:24.5

the defense is going to complete presenting their case by Tuesday or possibly Wednesday of next week.

1:31.1

Then, how long do you think we'll be on verdict watch? I don't know. Do you think a day, two days, three days?

1:36.8

We may very well know at this exact time next week if Karen Reid is found innocent, not guilty, framed, mistrial, guilty,

1:49.0

all the different options of like and variations of how this might play out. So we'll see.

1:57.1

We are close to the finish line. Now as I said, this week, let me pull out my notes here.

2:01.9

This week was a very important week in the trial. And I'm going to, of course, have Elena join.

2:06.6

She's going to break it all down for us in her beautiful science, you know, not science.

2:11.4

Well, she is, I guess, a scientist. So in her scientist, beautiful, organized ability.

2:17.5

But for now, let me give you just the table of contents, okay, of what we're going to be talking

2:22.9

about.

2:23.8

We're going to be talking about Michael Proctor and the group chat and his text messages and how

2:28.7

in those text messages, he says how he initially thought that it was a fight in the house based on what paramedics

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