Welcome to Beyond the Ring, a podcast that covers all things in the stock show industry, from the informative to the insane, starring Ryan Rash.

You can be pitiful or powerful, but you can't be both.

And Dale Hummel.

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Now on with the show.

Welcome to Beyond the Ring.

This is Dale Hummel, along with co-star, Ryan Rash.

Hello, hello, hello.

And I should probably insert, we have a guest today by Ryan's request.

He likes guests.

I like some guests.

I like this guest. We have my son Chase with us today.

Just glad to be here. Because he is a resident authority on the topic that we are going to have today.

And we'll lend a little bit of guidance. But before we get to the main topic, and by the way, on this guest bullshit that you always like tag me with, I've asked you for two different guests and you won't come up with them so don't that don't stop i have reached out we haven't got

our timing and very good shots but i i called chase late last night and he was good to go that

was that's the kind of guess that i like you just you just call them and they're good to go j That's the kind of guess that I like. You just, you just call them and they're good to go.

Jace, are you missing school this morning? I'm not. This is all before class. I already asked that

question. We didn't want to interrupt his higher education. No, we'd hate to do that. Well, Ryan,

the government shut down. Yeah, I'm aware. Did you feel it? No, I didn't. I didn't even know that it happened until you called this

morning at 630. I knew that it was supposed to happen, but I didn't know it was officially happened. I'm about as

concerned about it as Trump is evidently. So, Chase, did you feel it in Manhattan, Kansas yet? I have not. Yeah. So I woke up with

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