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Coaching for Leaders

284R: The Way to Stop Rescuing People From Their Problems, with Michael Bungay Stanier

Coaching for Leaders

Dave Stachowiak

Education, Business, Management, Self-improvement, Careers

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This is a re-airing of episode 284. New episodes return on Monday, August 14th.
Michael Bungay Stanier: The Coaching Habit
Michael Bungay Stanier is the author of eight books, including The Coaching Habit*, which has sold more than a million copies and is the best-selling book on coaching this century. In 2011 he created and edited End Malaria, a book written in partnership with Seth Godin that raised more than $400k for Malaria No More.

Michael is the founder Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that’s trained thousands of people around the world to be more coach-like. He has been featured in many publications including Harvard Business Review, Forbes, and Fast Company. His TEDx Talk on Taming Your Advice Monster has been viewed more than a million times.
Key Points

When things get difficult, there are three roles people may fall into: the victim, the persecutor, and/or the rescuer.
To step out of a victim role, figure out what’s really going on, take a deep breath, and think, “And what else?”
To avoid the persecutor role, assume positive intent and that people are trying their best.
To stop rescuing as much, ask the victim, “How can I help?” or “What do you want from me?”
Ask yourself what you want in the situation, and make sure you’ve communicated it to others. Then ask the others what they want.

Resources Mentioned

The Coaching Habit: Say Less, Ask More & Change the Way You Lead Forever* by Michael Bungay Stanier
The Advice Trap* by Michael Bungay Stanier

Related Episodes

How to Start Coaching Someone (episode 2)
How to Improve Your Coaching Skills, with Tom Henschel (episode 190)
These Coaching Questions Get Results, with Michael Bungay Stanier (episode 237)

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm taking a brief pause on airing new episodes until Monday, August 14th.

0:05.1

But in the meantime, I'm re-airing three past episodes on this theme, the ones I keep

0:11.5

coming back to.

0:12.9

You're about to hear the second of those three episodes, a conversation with Michael

0:17.8

Bungay-Stanier, the author of the coaching habit.

0:20.8

Michael has been on the show half a dozen times over the years, has done a phenomenal job

0:25.6

of supporting us all to be better leaders and to be more coach like.

0:29.5

This episode in particular, I keep coming back to, I keep hearing feedback from folks

0:34.3

on how helpful it was, a conversation on the way to stop rescuing people from their problems.

0:40.1

It's a trap many of us fall into in leadership and so much in this conversation from Michael

0:46.7

that's helpful on how to avoid stepping into that trap or if you've fallen into it, how

0:51.8

to get out of it.

0:52.8

I hope you'll enjoy this re-airing of coaching for leaders, episode 284.

0:59.5

Produced by Innovate Learning, Maximizing Human Potential.

1:08.7

Greetings to you from Orange County, California.

1:11.5

This is coaching for leaders and I'm your host, Dave Stahovjak.

1:16.3

Leaders aren't born, they're made and this weekly show gives you access to the practical

1:21.1

wisdom that will empower you to become a better leader.

1:25.6

I'm so glad you tuned in for this episode because I've been looking forward to this conversation

1:30.3

for actually several months now since I booked it and it is with someone who's a returning

1:36.1

guest to the show and I say that because this is someone who's got a great expertise

1:40.8

in coaching and helping us all to become more effective in the coaching work that we're

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