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Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.

Well, last summer, I had Leslie Bloom on the show to talk about her book, Everybody Behaves

Badly, which gives the story behind the story of Hemingway's first big novel, The Sun,

Also Rises. On today's show, I talked to an author of another book about this landmark novel,

who instead of providing the historical context of the Sun also rises, explores the ideal of

manliness Hemingway is trying to get at in the book. His name is Frank Minneter, he's a journalist

in the author of previous books like The Ultimate Man Survival Guide. His latest is called,

This Will Make a Man Out of You, One Man Searched to Find What Makes Men. And in this podcast,

Frank and I discuss Hemingway's project of creating a new myth of manliness that combined

traditional notions of masculinity with modern sensibilities. How Frank Sinatra killed the

rugge gentleman and made cool of defining the feature of modern manliness. And what the running

of the bulls can teach us about rights of passages into manhood. We in their conversation,

talking about Hemingway's attraction to and repulsion from bullfighting. And why the madador was

Hemingway's ideal symbol of manliness. Great show if you've read The Sun Also Rises,

you'll get a lot of great insights if you haven't read the book. There's some spoilers in here,

so you might want to read the book first before you listen. After the show's over,

check out the show notes at a-w-m.-i-s-slash-manof-you.

Frank Minneter, welcome to the show.

Thanks, Brad. Good to be here with you.

So long been fan of your work, you wrote a book, The Ultimate Man's Guide to Survival,

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