#284 - Scorsese Writer on DiCaprio & Most Dangerous Story NEVER Told | David Grann
Julian Dorey Podcast
Julian Dorey
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🗓️ 18 March 2025
⏱️ 172 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | about me what I write about. I never know anything about what I write about before I do. |
| 0:03.4 | But how do you even go and do the research on getting down into the granular detail like that? |
| 0:08.9 | What's the story there? You know, I write all true stories, and if I can't find the underlying |
| 0:13.8 | materials, I can't tell him. Why was Percy Fawcett so obsessed with the Lost City? Is he, and like, |
| 0:18.4 | what was the nature of him even finding out about it? As he would do these expeditions, he began to gather these clues, like, you know, in the jungles |
| 0:24.9 | of Bolivia, and he would see these Earth map. |
| 0:27.2 | You know, they looked at the pyramidal, but they were made of Earth. |
| 0:29.9 | It's not a lot of stone in the Amazon. |
| 0:31.6 | And then he would be going along, and he would find pottery and he started to think these are remnants of these ancient civilizations you would read |
| 0:39.4 | some of these early el dorado people who went into the jungle looking for gold and they would describe |
| 0:44.6 | in these accounts these kind of fabulously described large populations towns bridges gold yeah all these |
| 0:54.0 | things they would see. |
| 0:55.2 | And over time, when other explorers would go into the Amazon and not find anything, |
| 1:00.7 | and populations have dwindled to really tribal societies, |
| 1:05.0 | they concluded that these accounts were all missed. |
| 1:08.1 | And there's no doubt that some of that was true, |
| 1:10.3 | but people like Fawson would read these accounts and say, no, no, I think that some of that was true, but people like |
| 1:11.0 | Fawc would read these accounts and say, no, no, I think this is evidence that there were lots |
| 1:14.9 | of people here and that these things really were here. |
| 1:17.3 | And that could still be there. You look like Larry David a little bit, by the way. |
| 1:20.5 | So I'm very proud of that. And in fact, I don't take that as an insult. |
| 1:24.2 | It's not. Larry David wasn't around when I wrote The Lost City of Z, but if someone were to ask me now, |
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