283: Theology and Fredo Ramos

The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown

Sandals Church

Spirituality, Christianity, Deconstruction, Religion & Spirituality, Culture, Faith

4.9 • 799 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

This week on The Debrief Podcast, Matthew Stephen Brown sits down with Pastor Fredo Ramos for an honest, thoughtful conversation about theology.

Drawing from years of pastoral experience, Pastor Fredo shares insight into the kinds of struggles, doubts, and tensions many people wrestle with—especially when it comes to end times, or the afterlife. Together, they explore how to navigate uncertainty, challenge long-held assumptions on entertainment, and how to pursue a faith that is both grounded and genuine.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Debris podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown, where we take your real questions about faith, the Bible, and culture, and give you honest, practical advice you can trust.
0:11.3	We're glad you're here. Now let's get into today's episode.
0:16.3	Hey, guys, welcome to Debrief. We have a fantastic guest today who's not really a guest.
0:21.3	You know, I'm kind of.
0:22.4	Well, I mean, are you? You work here.
0:24.3	Yeah, I work here.
0:25.0	Yeah, so...
0:25.8	Mandatory guests.
0:26.5	He had to come today because he gets paid.
0:28.7	No, this is Pastor Fredo Ramos.
0:31.6	The worst interviewer of anyone I've ever interviewed for a job without a doubt.
0:37.2	This is true.
0:38.3	Literally looked like he drank just a pint of just lemon juice when I was trying to offer him a job.
0:45.6	What was going through your mind?
0:47.4	Well, first, I thought we were going to have like a debate about the Bible because I was teaching Madison at the time.
0:53.4	Okay, yeah, yeah.
0:53.8	And I was her Bible teacher. So I thought maybe you're going to come at you. Yeah. Yeah. So, and I was about a year into that church plant. Mm-hmm. And so I just, it wasn't even on my radar that I would be offered a job at a church like Sam. By the way, Josh Thompson, what's name of his church? Legacy City Church. yeah. Which you helped plant. He just went up to Kelly Slater's surf camp and caught some waves. So shout out to Josh Thompson. I saw that on Instagram. Josh, he was pulling in. It's a man-made barrel, but it's still, Josh, I got to give it to you. I love that guy. That goes all the way back to my harvest Christian Fellowship Days.
1:28.8	I love that guy. But yeah, you helped plan a church with him. Then you were a Bible teacher at
1:33.1	Woodchrist Christian. And then I interviewed you at Starbucks and you were awful, but I hired you
1:38.8	anyways. And it's a good thing, dude. Yeah. Yeah, you got to work on your. Look, he's got a great smile.
1:44.9	Like, if you're listening to the car, he's literally so handsome. And he just looked like, like, was just... I was stunned. I was literally, yeah, not ready for it. Madison told me, she said, my Bible teacher is awesome. You should hire him. That's how you came on my radar. Wow. And so, and you are awesome.
2:00.3	And you're a teaching pastor now at Sandals Church.
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