Hello, friends, and welcome to another episode of How Leaders Lead with David Novak.

It's March Madness, folks, and there's no better way to welcome in the tournament than Roy Williams on the podcast.

Coach Williams is without a doubt one of the best basketball coaches of all time.

As a headman's basketball coach of Kansas and UNC, he won three national championships and

made nine final four appearances. And through every moment, in every coaching position,

Roy had one standard. Don't step off the court until you've gotten better. That applied to his

players, his staff, and himself. And most leaders know that they should focus on continuous improvement,

but the hard part is actually making it into something real instead of just empty words.

In this episode, you'll learn how to build that discipline into your team without it feeling like a grind.

Enjoy this episode with David and Roy, and be sure to stay tuned to the very end of the

conversation for the debrief. Marvin Gay before, I guess probably maybe most two years,

we were pretty successful. I would listen to Marvin Gay, and it's the song I'd listen to

the most is, let's get it on. Marvin wasn't talking about the same thing I was talking about,

but it was that idea of, boys, let's get it on tonight, you know, that car.

You were a college basketball coach for 48 years.

What's it like for you to watch March Madness right now and not be out there on the

court? Well, you know, it was 48 years that I coach, but the first five years I was a high school

coach. Then I was a 10-year assistant to coach Dean Smith, which was the greatest training you

can possibly have. I think he was the greatest coach I've ever known on the court and far better off the court.

And then 15 years at Kansas and 18 at North Carolina.

But right now I'm enjoying doing things with my grandchildren that I never got to do with my own children.

But there are sometimes that I'm sitting up there and just, you know,

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