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The Lincoln Project

282: The Moonstruck Moment with Michael Steele

The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project

News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Host Reed Galen is joined by Former Lt. Governor of Maryland and Former Chairman of the Republican National Committee, Michael Steele. They discuss the field of 2024 GOP presidential candidates, the normative force of MAGA/right-wing media, and what to make of the impending government shutdown (and Kevin McCarthy’s catch-22). Plus, why our nation as a whole needs to re-embrace “E Pluribus Unum”. To hear more from Michael Steele, tune in to The Michael Steele Podcast and check out MichaelSteeleNetwork.com. If you’d like to ask a question or share a comment with The Lincoln Project, send an email to podcast@lincolnproject.us.

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And now, on with the show.

0:45.5

Music Union. us to get involved. And now, on with the show. Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Rie Gaelan. Today, I'm joined by

0:50.9

Michael Steele, former Lieutenant Governor of Maryland, former chairman of the Republican National Committee, current political analyst for MSNBC, and host of the Michael Steele podcast, available wherever fine podcasts are found.

1:02.9

Today, he's coming to us from the great state of Maryland. Michael, welcome back.

1:07.0

Hey, Reid. It's good to see you, man. How you doing?

1:09.8

I'm doing well, and I hope you are as well. It's been a while, so we have much to catch up on.

1:14.6

But I want to start with this. This morning as we're recording this, I was having a conversation with an old friend of mine.

1:20.6

This person is associated with a Republican candidate whose name is not Donald Trump.

1:26.6

And the scuttle butt within the non-Trump candidate world is that, and you're a former chairman of the RNC,

1:34.7

is that the RNC has completely cooked the primary for Trump.

1:39.5

That there is a reason why the first debate was in Milwaukee.

1:44.0

The second debate is in California. the second debate is in California,

1:46.0

the third debate is in Miami, Florida, right? That gets yet in November, and not one person

1:53.0

has seen these collected candidates on a stage together in states like Iowa or New Hampshire.

1:59.0

They also understand over there at the RNC that Trump doesn't

2:03.3

want to be on the stage with the likes of Chris Christie and Mike Pence. And the theory is that they

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