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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

282. Mean Tweets: an apologia | Pageau & Hurwitz

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2022

⏱️ 146 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Pageau and Gregg Hurwitz sit down with Dr. Jordan B Peterson to discuss a few of his recent controversial tweets covering topics of transgenderism, the body positivity movement, and the election of supreme court justice, Ketanji Brown Jackson. In this they seek to explore and debate how Petersons role in society, and thus how he represents himself to the public, can spark or shut down the conversation. Hurwitz is an American novelist, screenwriter, and comic book writer. He is known for authoring the “Orphan X” series, along with a wide range of films such as “The Book of Henry” (2017) and “The Rise of Jordan Peterson” (2019). Pageau is a liturgical artist and professional icon carver, known for his work featured in museums across the world. For Gregg Hurwitz: http://gregghurwitz.net For Jonathan Pageau: http://www.pageaucarvings.com www.thesymbolicworld.com www.orthodoxartsjournal.org https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageau // SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL // Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/jordanbpeterson.com/youtubesignup Donations: https://jordanbpeterson.com/donate // COURSES // Discovering Personality: https://jordanbpeterson.com/personality Self Authoring Suite: https://selfauthoring.com Understand Myself (personality test): https://understandmyself.com // BOOKS // Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life: https://jordanbpeterson.com/Beyond-Order 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: https://jordanbpeterson.com/12-rules-for-life Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief: https://jordanbpeterson.com/maps-of-meaning // LINKS // Website: https://jordanbpeterson.com Events: https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Blog: https://jordanbpeterson.com/blog Podcast: https://jordanbpeterson.com/podcast // SOCIAL // Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson Instagram: https://instagram.com/jordan.b.peterson Facebook: https://facebook.com/drjordanpeterson Telegram: https://t.me/DrJordanPeterson All socials: https://linktr.ee/drjordanbpeterson #JordanPeterson #JordanBPeterson #DrJordanPeterson #DrJordanBPeterson #DailyWirePlus

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0:00.0

Hello everyone. I needed to write and read a very carefully intro to this podcast episode

0:21.7

as it deals with particularly tricky and contentious matters. So please forgive the deviation

0:27.9

from spontaneity that such writing and reading necessarily requires. The discussion that follows

0:34.5

this intro is as free-flowing as might be hope for if that is some consolation. In 2016, I released

0:45.4

three videos on YouTube, commentaries on law being passed at the federal level in Canada, Bill C-16,

0:52.6

purporting to grant protected status to people with uncertain, so-called gender identities,

0:59.0

but in my opinion, constituting an unwarranted intrusion into the socially necessary and fundamentally

1:05.9

important domain of free speech. Those videos went viral for reasons that are still not exactly clear.

1:14.7

I believed at the time that the introduction of confusion regarding the conceptualization and

1:20.9

terminology of masculine and feminine identity would produce far more trouble than it would cure,

1:27.5

more specifically, that would produce a psychogenic epidemic among vulnerable young women around the

1:33.8

age of puberty, experiencing the onset of increased negative emotion, characteristic of that age

1:40.0

and sex. This is exactly and precisely what has happened and it's not good and it has to stop.

1:46.7

In any case, my objection in these videos in some subsequent interviews, most famously, I suppose,

1:54.2

with Kathy Newman of Channel 4 News, with Joe Rogan multiple times, with Helen Lewis of GQ,

2:02.0

as well as two books I wrote in recent years and a lecture series on Genesis,

2:06.8

brought me to what has been increasingly broad public attention. That has been a great adventure

2:12.2

with the attendant cost of severe and often exceptionally caustic criticism. I have now talked

2:20.6

with at least 100 people who have also been made into public targets. Without exception, it has

2:27.6

struck them to the core, put their careers at risk, alienated them too often from family and

2:33.5

friends and driven not a few into psychiatric care or wards. Everyone mobbed reacts as if they

2:41.9

have contracted a potentially fatal illness and the social media environment we now inhabit

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