So Dave's last act with the boat was to, it's a long story, but put it this way, we ended up with a cargo of porcelain.

Okay.

And I got a share of it and that was what gave me the capital to buy half the boat.

This is Martin Daly, talking about how he financed the purchase of the Indies trader.

So Dave Barnett, my mentor, was an absolute pirate, and he made his money, his initial money,

by taking all the scrap metal off the Second World War ships.

Mainly manganese bronze, the propellers and the condenses because they're steamships

and they had these big, you know, lots of copper pipe with these condensers.

And back in the 70s, late 60s when he was was doing it, copper was like $1,000 a ton scrap.

And you could buy a house for $8,000.

So he'd go out for six weeks and come back with 30 tons.

Whoa.

That's four houses.

You know, it was a little bonanza

and so this

the industry was built

specifically to do that

okay

to pick up scrap

off diving

salvage

and Dave was also interested

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