TV times and conference realignment, a lot of that stuff is all interconnected.

So I just think we're in a time of change.

Change doesn't have to be bad, change is good.

You've got to embrace it and if you don't, you're going to be left behind.

So I just think it's all about perspective and how you look at it.

Hey, what's cracking?

Welcome to the Jermon podcast where I've got a different kind of conversation on deck

for the big 280F this week.

That's right.

We have hit 280 episodes on the original side hustle and I am joined for number 280 by

the Athletic Director at UCLA, Martin Jarman, a two time recipient of the sports business

journals 40 under 40 award with 20 years in sports administration spanning three conferences.

Martin became the youngest AD of any power five institution at Boston College.

And now he's leading the UCLA athletic program into the big 10.

Now, if you've heard him before in the jungle, you know, my guy is spirited.

He's energetic.

He's engaging and he's smart as hell and he's doing a damn good job in Westwood.

So let's get right to it.

It's episode 280 with UCLA 80 Martin Jarman and it's coming at you right now.

Martin, my guy has been a minute or so.

So first things first, how you live in and next is this not the shortest summer ever?

Well, it's always good to be with you brother.

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