It wasn't until 2015 that I felt comfortable enough to cry in front of people.

So one of my colleagues was killed in the line of duty, and I remember showing up to work that day.

And that was the first time I allowed myself to cry in front of my coworkers.

And what was the response?

Everyone else was crying too. Everyone was a wreck.

And I think it created a safe space for them to express that.

That's another thing that we don't build into our culture, is that it's okay to be vulnerable.

Because vulnerability, people mistake it as a sign of weakness. I think it's a superpower.

Law enforcement. The mere utterance of the word gets some people's blood pumping on both sides of the political aisle.

But the fact is, we need police in a civilized society. The question we have to grapple with is what's the best way for a modern police organization to operate in today's world.

Here's what I've learned. Nearly all of the scandals the police have had almost always boil down to the same issue.

A lack of good leadership or a broken corporate culture, which are completely interrelated.

That's why I invited Chief of Police, Angela Averett, to join me on the podcast.

She's been a cop for over 27 years and has seen a thing or two in her time. She

leads a mid-sized police force in California and has embraced many of the leadership and culture

building techniques that folks like the military and many modern corporations already use.

And the results have been astounding. We touched on a lot of hot-button subjects, and we shied away from

nothing. I can guarantee that we will say at least one thing that will make almost everyone

listening a little bit uncomfortable. But if we want to modernize the way police cultures are

built today, we have to be open to having a curious and honest conversation

about it. I'd like to add that Chief Avert is also a member of an organization that I founded

not long after the murder of George Floyd, the Curve Initiative. The curve brings together some of the

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