And then the more aspirational future bit is like really the Star Trek, the Star Wars, like

humanity going out to the stars.

And we are now really, literally at the moment where this is happening, like private space station.

Elon Musk is talking about Mars, but not only talking about Mars, but actually launching

spaceship, I believe, later today is, I think, one of the next tests.

I mean, it's an incredible time for us.

Hello and welcome to the new Space vision podcast sponsored by life yo where we discuss new space technology, finance and innovation with executives founders and more exciting people from the startup and new space ecosystem. I'm Danes Seidel. And I'm Sven Chivara and together we are the founders of the Earth Observation Company,

Live, Yo, and New Space Vision.

Today we are pleased to welcome acclaimed filmmaker and entrepreneur, Torstenor Hoffman.

He won multiple awards for his film Cryptopia, which is featured on Netflix and is now

working on, you guessed it, a new space documentary featuring some of the exact

people we like to have here on the podcast.

Like Sven?

Thank you so much for joining to Austin.

Well, thank you. This time it's a reversed roles, right? Last time I interviewed you and

now we'll do it the other way around.

Exactly. And we're going to come to that in the second. But first, we always try to understand to whom we're speaking and to give the audience a

little bit of a background story about the people which we're speaking to.

So maybe tell us, now you're a filmmaker, but what have you been doing before becoming

a filmmaker?

Yeah, so I have a finance and business background.

I have a distribution company that worked with documentary filmmakers consulting them and

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