279 | Rian Johnson on Writing High-Concept Stories with Deep Emotional Stakes
The Screenwriting Life with Meg LeFauve and Lorien McKenna
Meg LeFauve & Lorien McKenna
4.9 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 8 January 2026
⏱️ 55 minutes
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| 0:31.4 | Hey everyone, welcome back to the screenwriting life. |
| 0:33.7 | I'm Meg Lofov, and today I'm joined by Ryan Johnson, a two-time Academy Award and Golden |
| 0:39.1 | Globe nominated filmmaker, known for telling bold, distinctive stories across an incredible range |
| 0:44.7 | of genres. His films include Knives Out, Glass Onion, Looper, and Star Wars The Last Jedi. Through |
| 0:50.5 | his company, T Street, with creative partner Rom Bergman, Ryan also co-created and executive produced the hit Emmy-nominated series Poker Face and executive produced the sci-fi series Three Body Problem. |
| 1:02.4 | His latest film, Wake Up Dead Man, A Knives Out Mystery, is the third installment in the beloved who done at murder mystery franchise and is now streaming on Netflix. |
| 1:16.9 | I am so thrilled and a huge fan to have Ryan Johnson here. So Ryan, welcome to the podcast. |
| 1:22.3 | Thank you so much for having me. Ryan's been a good sport and he's going to do our first segment, which is Adventures in Screenwriting or How Was Your Week? I'll start really quickly. My week was still writing. Yes, |
| 1:30.9 | we're getting towards the holidays, but I am, you know, pages are due. And we had so many |
| 1:36.4 | balls in the air. I don't know. Ryan, I'm saying this to the master of balls in the air. So I say |
| 1:40.8 | this with a small caveat, not as many as you. |
| 1:49.1 | But then we were trying to work in a rewrite, my writing partner and I, that honestly, |
| 1:51.9 | we forgot one of the balls completely, which is the antagonist. |
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