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🗓️ 29 February 2024
⏱️ 36 minutes
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0:00.0 | I want to still come back to this notion, you know your sort of solution to the dilemma the Mary Murphy's positioning gave you. |
0:17.0 | And the way you solve it is this idea that if you really, mean this was this was language that was |
0:25.6 | part of this research from these years ago but this idea of being a genius |
0:29.8 | maker you know if but I think with Steve it's like he was, he wasn't, |
0:34.9 | it wasn't, are you a genius or a genius maker? |
0:36.9 | It's like he was a genius and a genius maker. |
0:39.3 | Yes. |
0:39.8 | And that seems to be what you're describing and of course, that it has to be the ideal scenario. |
0:45.6 | But it helps us to create a hierarchy, right? |
0:50.3 | Like the hierarchy isn't. |
0:53.6 | It's like, don't try to be the genius. |
0:55.9 | Don't try to be the genius maker. |
0:58.8 | Try to be a genius who's a genius maker, right? |
1:01.0 | Like it's, at least somehow produces something of what you want to have. |
1:07.5 | When I've interviewed or worked directly with people that worked with Steve, one of the things they say to me and I'm curious about your take on this. |
1:15.6 | They said they said look you don't do the best work of your life working for a jerk right? So the idea that the media narrative |
1:24.9 | is an oversimplification, oversimplified narrative |
1:27.4 | to say, oh yeah, well Steve Jobs |
1:28.5 | are just always a jerk. |
1:29.3 | It's like, they're like, whatever, man, |
1:31.5 | that that's just people that didn't know didn't understand or whatever |
1:34.4 | what's your sense of that you would you agree with that sentiment well you see it differently his |
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