#277 Michael Lester - Are We the Bad Guys?
The Shawn Ryan Show
Shawn Ryan Show
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🗓️ 5 February 2026
⏱️ 269 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | All right, Michael, we're getting ready to start the big interview here, but we have this, |
| 0:09.1 | we have this segment we do before the big interview called the hot question. So here we go. |
| 0:15.8 | In World War II, the trigger was visible. September 1st, 1939, and the world had a line you could point to. |
| 0:24.4 | Today there are, excuse me, today there may never be a single invasion moment because everything is being weaponized at once. |
| 0:32.7 | Narratives, markets, technology, supply chains, and domestic division, with psychological warfare coming |
| 0:40.3 | from outside and from within. |
| 0:43.3 | Excuse me. So here's the question. Are we watching the modern version of the 1930s, |
| 0:51.3 | where pressure campaigns and propaganda set the conditions until a major war becomes |
| 0:56.2 | unavoidable. |
| 0:57.7 | And if so, what are the clearest World War II era parallels you see playing out in real time |
| 1:03.7 | right now? |
| 1:04.9 | Wow. |
| 1:06.3 | That's quite the question. |
| 1:09.7 | I'm actually going to take it back a war. |
| 1:13.6 | Okay. |
| 1:14.6 | Before World War I, historians would say the world was a tinderbox. |
| 1:21.0 | It was ready to go, right? |
| 1:23.1 | And then you had the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand that kind of kicked everything off, |
| 1:28.3 | right? |
| 1:29.3 | Even more than in 1939, 1939 Hitler invaded Poland and people were on edge. |
| 1:36.3 | But in World War I, even more than that, there was more going on that the whole world was |
| 1:42.3 | on edge, right, and ready to go. |
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