Energy is really misunderstood.

Costing households and it's costing businesses and it's making the economy

uncompetitive.

Completely agree that the electricity price is a problem.

I think the next sentence though often in the political debate is

and that's because of net zero or because of the renewables.

Which is rubbish.

Investors, as you know Robert aren't fans of change and change to markets in 25-year infrastructure projects.

Invest a certainty to get the stuff built or consumer benefit pre-2030.

Clean energy is a very attractive destination.

Why is it so apparently politically unpopular?

And what does any government do about it?

We're delighted to say that this year the rest is money is being powered by Octopus Energy. So Greg is back with us. Greg, I've got another question for you.

So in terms of energy companies, are we just back to the big six?

You know what? We've only got like six or so major supermarket chains.

No one worries about that because they invest ferociously in competition. You've got differentiation. We thought the market was stable, then Alden Little turned up. Competition is not about reinventing the souk with dozens of identicate companies. It's about companies having different approaches to looking after

customers and competing ferociously on that. Energy could well be going that direction.

Cheers, Greg. And thank you for powering this episode of The Rest is Money.

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