Hello listeners, how are we?

I'm in gridlock in Swindonindon sort of one-way system I suppose I mean who's been to Swindon it is the

home of the roundabout. There is a roundabout that is, I think it's quite well known because it came up on the Google map on my phone as I drove through it.

It's a roundabout surrounded by like 15 other

roundabouts with satellite roundabouts all over it and it's like a sort of relic from some town planning.

Do you know what it was probably designed but in the 70s when there's lots of acid

going around because somebody was high when they were designing that thing I tell you.

So it's very early in the morning I'm on my way to the train station and it doesn't look like

I'm the only person who's decided to head into work because it's gridlock.

But you know other than that there are spring there are green shoots as they say

daffs are coming up in the garden blossom on the not very well tree out the back of

the house it's I don't know what, actually don't know what kind of tree it is, but it's got some

pink blossom on it, but half the branches are dead, but you know. It was sort of sunny yesterday, which was nice. Today, bit grey.

Now then, what have we got for you today?

Well, here on Homo sapiens, got Leighton Williams of Strictly Fame, of Everybody

Loves Jamie Fame, Leighton got to the final of Strictly, did the most incredible dances, and just hosted the Brits,

the Brits red carpets, we talk all about that.

What I love about Leighton is he has defied expectations from the get-go.

Really interesting childhood, moved out when he was like 13, 14, came to London, was in

Billy earlier, you know, kind of came out actually lived as a queer kid but then sort of had to go

back in the closet when he had to go home because he got sack from thriller, the stage show thriller.

So he sort of had this amazing microcosm of being free himself

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