Well, I don't see the point in waiting longer, so let's see the point in waiting longer,

so let's bring her out.

The Star Attraction, the one you came to see.

Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only, Ms. Judy Gold.

In your families now, do you feel that you are just that unit?

People, I think non-L-G-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-A-L-L-L-A people don't realize that because we're so often rejected by our family and because

we are closeted and can't or were and couldn't ever tell the truth, we created our own families.

So this idea of creating your own family is not new to us.

So you guys are both said, you know, we wanted these anonymous donors so that we could be a unit.

Do you have, you know, and I definitely do, my kids are grew up in a village.

There were other, how about you guys? I mean I think that that's something about

LGBTQ families that is a little different than hetero normative.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, 100%.

Because I think we do, our friends are our family.

There's so many uncles and aunts

that are not blood related.

Go ahead.

I mean, we're in the same group of mom friends, so we do have that village of gay mom friends

that is how this podcast even came about.

We do. My kids have, so they call all of our game on friends

Aunt so and so and so and so and so.

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