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Conspirituality

276: Inventing Saint Charlie Kirk

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Charlie Kirk became the latest victim of gun violence in America on September 10. And he wasn't the only person shot on a school campus that day, nor was he the only political figure killed this year.  Unlike Melissa Hortman and her husband, the motivation for Kirk’s murder remains unclear. That hasn’t stopped right-wing pundits and politicians from framing it as typical extremist left-wing violence.  In between calls for civil war and censorship, the ramping up of police-state authoritarianism, and painting of the slain Christian Nationalist activist as a noble martyr, anti-racist icon Ta-Nehisi Coates called out the strange reflex from some left-of-center figures (like Ezra Klein) to participate in whitewashing Kirk's hateful politics. Today we discuss what happened and what it might mean. Show Notes ⁠From Secular Activist to Christian Nationalist⁠ ⁠Doug Wilson on Abortion, Gays, Women Voting⁠ ⁠Meet The New Apostolic Reformation⁠ 167: Straight White American Jesus (w/Bradley Onishi)⁠ ⁠129: White Christian Nationalism (w/Philip Gorski and Samuel Perry)⁠ ⁠Stealing Democracy for Jesus⁠ ⁠Blackpill Aesthetics: A Crash Course in Meme Extremism⁠ ⁠Charlie Kirk, Redeemed: A Political Class Finds Its Lost Cause Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey everyone. Welcome to Conspiratuality, where we investigate the intersections of conspiracy theories and spiritual influence to uncover cults, pseudoscience, and authoritarian extremism.

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I'm Derek Beres.

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I'm Matthew Remski. I'm Julian Walker.

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