Welcome to the Burling Instincts Podcast.

I'm Dr. Stewart Fish Fine, community-based practicing obstetrician and long-time advocate for birth choices.

And I'm Bliss Young, a licensed midwife.

Join us in our conversational style podcast where we talk about everything birth.

Sometimes we laugh, sometimes we cry, but we're happy that you're here. So,

here we go. This is a Soul Fire production. Hello, my friends. Hello, I think we're both

multitasking beyond belief here. Tell me more about that. I know. We had to delay podcast a couple times today because you had things going on and I used

my time wisely in the last hour and I watched your interview on trusting Bert. Thanks. Yeah,

it was just you being you and so enjoyable. Thank you. I enjoyed it.

Yeah.

I mean, your talk about how you visualize birth is so different from most people that I know,

not midwives, but most people in the world, certainly most people in my profession.

And your trust in it and your vision of traditional midwifery and the journey is with an individual person. I know she asked you a

question about, you know, which birth did this to you or did that to you? And you said, none of them,

really, it's all, it's been, it was my personal journey, not anything that I experienced. And

then you go off and talk about bridge midwifery and, and the need for archiving, the traditions

that are disappearing. And I can't think of anything that could be more relevant in this day and age, when you see what the medical world is doing.

Yeah, today was, I mean, it's just, it becomes to think that, that we have to fight this battle over and over and over and over and over again.

And the people that want to shut you down or shut us down are people that really don't know anything.

About this, yeah.

Well, I don't know that they really know anything other than what they've been taught,

but it's not very intuitive.

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