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🗓️ 10 March 2022
⏱️ 37 minutes
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In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Garry Kasparov about Putin’s war of aggression in Ukraine. They discuss Putin’s larger objectives, the perception of the war inside Russia, whether US and EU foreign policy is to blame, the expansion of NATO, American weakness, Republican support for Putin, the sanctions regime, whether the US and EU should impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine, whether to openly seek regime change in Russia, how we can avoid WW3, what post-Putin government in Russia might look like, Western economic entanglement with autocracies, and other topics.
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0:46.3 | No house keeping today. |
0:48.1 | We will jump right into it. |
0:50.3 | Today's episode is a conversation first had on Zoom for podcast subscribers with Gary |
0:58.7 | Kesparaugh, who perhaps needs no introduction. |
1:02.8 | He's been on the podcast before. |
1:05.5 | One of the greatest chess players of all time, World Champion for many years. |
1:10.5 | But in his more recent incarnation, he has been a tireless advocate for democracy and |
1:17.2 | Western liberal values in his home country of Russia. |
1:21.6 | And as you might imagine, he now has much to say about Putin's war of aggression in Ukraine. |
1:27.6 | So we really cover the whole topic. |
1:31.0 | We talk about how we got here, what the perception of the war is inside of Russia. |
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