Hey everyone is Jen.

And this is Lindsay.

And this is Corpus delicti, the podcast.

Still an allergy season.

Yes, for sure.

It does not seem to be going away anytime soon.

So we are going to pick up with part two of Ivan Malat's story.

Super quick recap.

A lot of people go missing in Belanglo National Forest in Australia.

Most, all but one, were in pairs.

One person was found alone and had been traveling alone. They were found killed in

various manners, shooting, beating, stabbing, and the stabbings all seem to have severed the spine,

which would have paralyzed the victims. And when we left off, the task force had just

found their guy identified by Paul onions who had escaped from Ivan Millat. So, Ivan Malat is

arrested on May 22, 1994. But when we say arrested, it was an all-out cinematic arrest with 50 officers surrounding the home, movie-style, almost like a swap team.

So they arrived at 6.30 a.m. and he was originally arrested on robbery and weapons charges from Paul's incident so that they could get him in custody

while they're putting all the pieces together and getting all that tangible evidence and

really making their case.

So what they do is the lead negotiator is outside his house and he calls him on the phone

and he says, Mr. Ivan Millat, is it?

And the person inside the house says no. the negotiator said is Ivan Malat there and the man said nope he's not here at the moment but they knew it was him they can see in the windows and all that they told him to come out of the house along with anyone else who was in there Ivan is telling his girlfriend who's out the house

with him. Look, this is a joke. This is the guys at work. There's only one man out at the door. I can see

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