It's time for episode 274 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay FM recorded Friday, December 28th, 2018.

Clockwise, four people, that if you start at precisely 30 minutes before the ball drop, then you will hear Dan Moran say, bye everybody, right as it starts the new year. I'm one of your

co-host, Micah Sargent, and I am joined across the vast and ever-changing internet by my co-host,

Dan Morin. How you doing, Dan? I'm doing okay, Micah. It's our last show of the year,

which is always very exciting. So, you know,

I think it'll be a good one. I think so, too. And something tells me that it's not going to be a 30

minute show. It's going to be 28, 29, something like that. And so I'm totally wrong with what I've said.

But that is just how the cookie crumbles. I don't know.

But we've got to introduce our guests.

And to my left, I believe the first time on Clockwise here on Relay FM.

It is the co-host of Defocused over on the incomparable, as well as the proprietor of a source of rice.

It is Dan.

Oh, God.

He says, it is Dan Sturm.

How you doing, Dan?

I'm doing great.

Thanks for having me.

We are happy to have you here.

I think I can keep my Dan straight.

Yeah.

I always have a very strict one day in policy.

It doesn't really work. To my left, our second guest, the editor at IT Pro Today, a podcaster at The Incomparable,

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