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sign up to Empire Club at www.empowerpod.ukuk.com. Hello and welcome to Empire with me, Anita Arnhen.

And me, William Durimple.

Now, inadvertently, Donald Trump has given us a theme.

Quite a few of these mini-series.

How grateful we are to our great leader.

A podcast thanks him.

But we decided that we would work down his shopping list.

You know he's been expressing interest and buying all sorts of things.

And, you know, we started with Greenland.

We moved on to Canada. And now we are heading south to Panama in Central America.

And we want to really try and understand why this former Spanish colony has made it onto his list.

And we've got that brilliant man with us again. You love him. We love him.

Brilliant maritime historical archaeologist Mark

Horton, who has given us some absolute jaw-dropping scoops on this podcast, let me tell you.

Do you know, the last time you were on, Mark, Willie and I just had to pinch ourselves because

we thought we knew his story and then you kept dropping new facts on us that basically left us shook,

shook down to our little shoes, it did. So you will remember from Mark's wonderful appearance

on the Roanoke episode that Mark has a habit of falling on major archaeological sites in rather

nice parts of the world where he can go on holiday.

You're making it sound like he trips over stuff in sunny climbs.

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