272 | Russell Barkley, Ph.D., Part 2 - The Case Against Neuropsychological Testing and New Research Part 2

ADHD reWired

Eric Tivers, LCSW, ADHD-CCSP

Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Education

4.8 • 937 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2019

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Russell Barkley joins me for the fourth time as a guest on my podcast. He is a clinical professor of psychiatry at the Virginia Treatment Center for Children and Virginia Commonwealth Medical Center in Richmond, Virginia. Board certified in three disciplines: clinical psychology, clinical child and adolescent psychology, and clinical neuropsychology. Russell is a clinical scientist, educator, and practitioner with 23 published books and 41 editions, more than 290 scientific articles and chapters related to the nature, assessment, and treatment of ADHD and related disorders. He is the founder and editor of the newsletter "The ADHD Report". He has spoken at over 800 events and has been recognized for his contributions. ADHD and Russell's work has sometimes been considered "over pathologizing", however, his message is to get the science out for those with ADHD so these individuals can get proper treatment and lead healthy lives. Russell talks about why neuropsychological testing is inappropriate and misleading as a test for ADHD. Russell is a proponent of discontinuing the use of neuropsychological testing for ADHD. We talk about a controversial device, recently approved by the FDA, for treating ADHD, and new, innovative, research using Virtual Reality for ADHD at the University of Berkley, California. Your Resources Russell Barkley | Dr. Barkley's websiteThe One Thing Book | How you can make a difference on outcomes When An Adult You Love Has ADHD | Russell's book for those who live with adults who have ADHD You'll Learn: [04:12] The misuse of neuropsychological testing for diagnosing ADHD. [06:35] Comparing test group averages versus classifying individual people. [09:15] Why neuropsychological tests are not accurate for testing for a diagnosis of ADHD. [10:13] Why people with ADHD are passing neuropsychological tests. [11:41] What categories are included in neuropsychological tests assessment. [13:33] Test environments are not conducive to someone's everyday normal environment. [16:53] Neuropsychological testing may be useful for physical brain injury situations. [19:45] How should a medical provider be evaluating ADHD, the timeframe and what conditions to rule in or out based on second or third disorders. [23:50] What should you do if you are experiencing something else other than ADHD? Other testing which can assess ADHD and impairment. [26:32] Russell's definition of executive functioning skills. [34:32] Device which has shown improvement for treating children with ADHD. [41:16] New and novel research using Virtual Reality for possibly diagnosing ADHD. Use my Audible.com affiliate link for your favorite titles: http://www.audibletrial.com/ADHDreWired ADHD reWired Coaching and Accountability Group Early registration for ADHD reWired's Spring season of our online, video-based coaching and accountability group has ended, and the groups are full. Our next registration signups begin May 10th. To sign up on the email list, which allows you to register on May 7th, visit http://coachingrewired.com. ADHD Women's Palooza Encore packages of this amazing conference are available for only $97! That includes audio and video downloads, as well as abridged transcripts. Learn more at http://adhdrewired.com/palooza Support the podcast on Patreon Patreon allows listeners like you to support content creators like me. With a monthly contribution, you can get access to different levels of perks. One perk example is our Patreon-only Adult Study Hall. Learn more at http://patreon.com/adhdrewired ADHD reWired Facebook Group: If you would like to join the ADHD reWired secret Facebook group, go to EricTivers.com/community and fill out an application. Productivity Q&A Get your ADHD questions answered live! These Q&A sessions take place on the 2nd Tuesday of every month at 12:30 pm. Go to http://erictivers.com/events. Want to be a guest? Hey, What about you? Do you have a story? Are you a Coach? Are you an ADHD Clinician? If you answered "yes" to any of these questions and you'd like to be a guest, schedule a pre-interview call here.

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0:00.0	This is the second part of my recent conversation with Dr. Russell Barclay.
0:04.0	I broke it into two parts because my internet went down for five hours midway through our scheduled recording.
0:10.0	So we picked it up the following Monday.
0:12.0	I want to thank Dr. Barclay for his flexibility.
0:14.6	If you missed last week's episode, we talked about Dr. Barclay's research on ADHD and life expectancy
0:21.1	and while the data shows that ADHD does indeed have a
0:24.8	negative impact on life expectancy we spent considerable time talking about
0:28.9	how people with higher levels of conscientiousness counter the negative impact ADHD has on our life expectancy
0:36.0	and that all the factors associated with decreased life expectancy for those of us
0:40.4	with ADHD are things that are changeable.
0:43.4	If you haven't listened to it, it really is worth going back and listening,
0:47.0	but you don't have to listen to that episode to make sense of this one.
0:50.5	We talk about totally different topics.
0:52.2	On today's episode, you're going to hear
0:54.2	Dr. Barclay make a strong case for why he thinks we need to stop using neuropsych testing
1:00.7	when assessing for ADHD. We also talk about a controversial new advice that you may have seen in the news that was just approved by the FDA for treating ADHD and what the study really said about the device.
1:13.2	And Dr. Berkeley talks about some really cool and innovative research
1:17.6	being done at UC Berkeley using virtual reality.
1:21.6	I hope you enjoy today's interview and if you do let me know what you think by leading
1:25.2	honest or rating and review on Apple Podcasts and now my interview with Dr. Russell Berkeley
1:32.3	So if someone's listening to this or maybe there's even a medical provider who works with
1:36.1	ADHD is listening to this.
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