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The Shawn Ryan Show

#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

The Shawn Ryan Show

Shawn Ryan Show

Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.946.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2026

⏱️ 240 minutes

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Summary

Elizabeth is the founder of No More Victims, an advocacy organization that passes child protection laws, and has served as the executive director of the Phillips Foundation since 2013. After her younger brother Trey died by suicide in 2019, following childhood sexual abuse at Kanakuk Kamps and a restrictive NDA. She is a SMU who has become a national voice for survivor justice. Elizabeth works on cases related to child sexual abuse, trafficking and negligence as a certified crime victim advocate. In 2025 she passed Trey’s Law unanimously in Texas and Missouri, banning NDAs that silence child victims of sexual abuse and trafficking It was named in honor of her late brother who was abused and whose perpetrator is in prison for three life terms. She also led the Campaign for Camp Safety with families who lost daughters at Camp Mystic, passing the Heaven’s 27 Camp Safety and Youth CAMPER Acts in Texas (2025) to establish baseline regulations for summer camps. A certified crime victim advocate, Elizabeth exposed decades of alleged abuse at Kanakuk (FactsAboutKanakuk.com), works globally on prevention, and is scaling innovative treatments for both survivors and offenders. Elizabeth is a wife and mother of three. Elizabeth's dedication to these reforms is now expanding nationally, and this interview is the first time Elizabeth has spoken publicly about this collective work and what’s ahead. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family—apply today in just minutes at https://meetfabric.com/SHAWN. Go to https://helixsleep.com/srs for 27% Off Sitewide Ready to upgrade your eyewear? Check them out at https://roka.com and use code SRS for 20% off sitewide. Elizabeth Phillips Links: IG - https://www.instagram.com/elizcphillips X - https://x.com/ElizCPhillips Phillips Foundation - https://phillipsfdtn.org No More Victims - https://www.nmvalliance.org Linktree - https://linktr.ee/elizcphillips Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Elizabeth Phillips, welcome to the show.

0:08.1

Thanks for having me.

0:09.3

You're welcome.

0:10.5

I've been looking forward to this.

0:11.8

Same.

0:12.7

But yeah, so, interesting, I think it was a couple months ago.

0:16.7

I think maybe late October, sometime in November.

0:24.9

Tim Tebow called me and told me about your situation, what you're doing, the laws that you're getting passed, and he told me about

0:32.2

what happened with your brother, who was sexually abused at Camp Canacook in Missouri. And Tim asked me if I would

0:43.0

be interested in doing an interview with you. And so when he told me about the situation,

0:51.0

immediately I was like, yep, I'm in. Let's do it uh this is a topic that we've covered several

0:56.9

times on the show and i think a lot of people are scared to talk about this subject i don't know

1:01.7

why i don't know what's more important than saving our kids but we're here for it and um and um

1:09.6

so thank you for being here this is going to be a very heavy interview

1:13.8

and um and man you know i've just heard amazing things about camp cana cook at fact one of uh one of one of one of one of one of

1:22.2

our team members here today has been there i think she said she's been going there since she was

1:26.7

three years old.

1:31.9

And, yeah, but.

1:38.1

Thanks for being willing to have the conversation and to enter the darkness a little bit so we can expose it.

1:38.7

Yeah.

1:42.5

And God bless Tim for the intro. God bless you for wanting to have the conversation.

1:48.1

I'm grateful to anyone who will let me talk about this and who cares.

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