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Indie Hackers

#271 – Gamification, Digital Nomading, and Growing Sales to $41k/mo with Stas Kulesh of Karma

Indie Hackers

Courtland Allen and Channing Allen

Startups, Entrepreneurship, Makers, Indie, Bootstrapping, Online, Technology, Business, Founders, Bootstrappers, Ideas, Tech, Indiehackers, Hackers

4.9 β€’ 606 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 15 March 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Stas Kulesh (@stas_kulesh) talks about building internal tools as a great hack, why it takes 10 years to understand a new country, the challenging secret of enterprise sales, and slowly growing a SaaS business to $40k/month with Courtland (@csallen) and Channing (@ChanningAllen).

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0:00.0

Dude, do you watch YouTube at all?

0:10.0

Yeah, a little bit.

0:12.0

I'm trying to do more learning.

0:14.0

I want like a better information diet.

0:16.0

And a couple years ago, I subscribed to a ton of newsletters.

0:20.0

You know that phase when everybody was super into a substack and whatever, and it was just like everybody was doing paid newsletters? I subscribed to like 50 newsletters. And I had this grand plan that I'm going to read all these newsletters and all this stuff. But like what happens is I've just spent the last two years just like marking every email read and archiving them immediately and not reading any of that shit. So I think I should go to YouTube instead because newsletters things just like it's not working. But I'm not sure what channels to watch. Like I don't know what's good on YouTube, but just know there's a lot of good stuff. You're trying to increase your information diet. Are you, like, vaguely you just want more information? Yeah. Are there specific types of things you want to learn? I'm not even there yet. I don't know. I just want to learn stuff. I don't want to watch like, you know, like funny TikToks and like reels and shit. Like I want to watch like stuff where after I watch it, I know more. I'm so difficult with these kind of questions. I'm like,

1:11.2

what's your why? Like, I get that you want to learn. Like, what's, what's the problem that you're trying to deal with? I don't know, man. I'll, like, I'll have like downtime in between, like, I don't want to work, you know. I've already exercised. I've already hung out my friends. and then I like play board games online.

1:10.2

I'm ranked number like 23 in the world

1:11.8

ticket to ride because I play board games online. I'm ranked number like 23 in the world. Ticket to

1:29.4

ride because I play so much on my phone. I'm like, I shouldn't be doing this. I should be learning something. I don't even know what that is. It's a random fucking board game. I can, like, you shouldn't even know. It's not, I shouldn't even know what it is. But there's so much good stuff on YouTube. Every now and then I stumble across.

1:25.5

Like somebody on Hackern News the other day was recommending like this video on astronomy.

1:29.1

And I just like clicked it randomly. There's so much good stuff on YouTube. Every now and then I stumble across, like, somebody on Hackernus the other day was recommending

1:44.9

like this video on astronomy and I just like clicked it randomly and it's like this YouTube

1:49.3

channel called Crash Course and they just do crash courses and topics.

1:53.5

It's almost like Khan Academy where you can learn about math or business or life sciences or

1:59.4

you know, history and I clicked like video number 25 in their astronomy

2:04.8

course and I learned all this stuff about like how we know how far away the stars are and the

2:09.5

history of how the ancients like figured out that the earth was round like did you know the

2:13.0

ancient Greeks knew the earth was round like 2,000 years ago. I didn't know that shit.

2:19.2

And the way they figured it out was cool.

2:20.9

I did research for like I was studying innovation and I wanted to write an article on it.

2:25.8

And I studied the Greeks.

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