Welcome to Episode 270 with my guest, Patty H. Today's episode is sponsored by Penzu,

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off your pro or pro plus subscription. I'm Paul Gilmarten, this is the metal illness

happy hour, a place for honesty about all the battles in our heads, for medically diagnosed

conditions, past traumas and sexual dysfunction, to everyday compulsive negative thinking.

This shows not meant to be a substitute for professional metal counseling. I'm not a

therapist, it's not a doctor's office. It's more like a waiting room that doesn't suck.

The website for this show, as well as the Twitter handle for me, is a mental pod, mental pod.com is the

website. You can fill out surveys there, maybe we'll read your survey on the show, you can browse

the forum, you can post stuff there, you can read blogs and guest blogs, you can support the show,

you can buy a t-shirt or a coffee mug, all kinds of different things. So please go, please go check

that out. Oh, I want to do a, I'm having a perfectionist angst moment and this episode with patty,

I fiddle with the volume knob when we were recording and so the volume kind of goes up and down

throughout it and it's probably not even noticeable to the average person but it's, I'm just having anxiety

about it. So what I'm doing is I'm giving you a chance to hate me in advance. So you've been

warmed, you've been prepped and now send all your negative energy my way. Yeah, I think that's

oh, you know what? I want to share a little something, a little moment of pride that I had,

you know, I've talked on the podcast before about how I worry that I'm getting older and my

body's breaking down. I had a hockey game on Tuesday night and there's a new team in our league

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