270. Drama at the US Track Champs, Megan's Comeback Race, The Cooling Revolution, Harnessing Supercompensation, and Improving Sleep Before Races!

Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche

Sports, Running

4.8 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

We luxuriated in vending machine cookies before this great episode! We started by talking about Megan's first race in 1.5 years. She HAD A DAY, and we share a celebration of the winding road to get here.

We also talked about the USA Track Championships, which might have been the most surprising (and drama-filled) track meet we have ever seen. There was a near-fight in the 200m, Shelby Houlihan winning the 5k, a 16-year old running a 1:42 800m, and so much more! David was there, coaching and asking questions. He reports back!

And this one was full of amazing topics! Other topics: sodium bicarbonate uses and risks, David's travel nightmare to make it back in time for Megan's race, the cooling revolution in endurance sports, stories from the Tour de France Femmes, how to think about pre-race sleep, the origins of the dinosaur logo, post-race supercompensation windows, supplement timing, treadmill grade, a hypothetical on which runner we'd most like to be for a day, bloodwork after heat training, dealing with shin pain, and lots more!

Thank you all so much for being here for the whole journey! HUZZAH!

-Megan and David

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0:00.0	Woo!
0:01.0	Welcome to the Some Work All Play podcast.
0:03.0	We are so happy to do with you today.
0:05.0	Happy Tuesday.
0:06.0	It's Tuesday.
0:07.0	And I'm mentally in the Aspen Trees on this Tuesday.
0:09.0	Mentally in the Aspen Trees.
0:10.0	We are not currently in the Aspen Trees.
0:12.0	So what are you talking about?
0:13.0	I feel like I'm there though.
0:14.0	So we're coming off this weekend at the Aspenback Country Marathon and those trails are stunners.
0:19.0	They are so cool. What a great place for you to do your first race
0:22.5	postpartum. The last race you did was in March 24. And so, Megan, how was it? It was so fun to be back.
0:30.6	It was one of those things of actually kind of just like riding a bike of feeling like I was out
0:34.5	there and just like clicking right into the race mindset. And it's kind of cool how that comes back instantly. Well, there's a couple of reasons that using the riding the bike metaphor is tricky. First, we fell off our bikes in the only little bike race we've ever done. So a little bit tough there. Number two, every listener to the last few episodes knows what I'm talking about.
0:54.3	Yeah. Riding a bike is special for you. The race start was not like this this time. It would have been nice, actually. I was like, I could use a little bit of this in my life standing on the starting line, but did not happen. It did not happen. Oh, and you were following me. There's a video of the start where you're right on my ass. And notably, you did not orgasm when you're right on my ass this time, only in the bike race. I was too far off. You got off that line too fast. Yeah, you got off fast and I was like, I'm just going to follow him for a hot second. And it was really fun. And then you roll off into the distance with your beautiful stride. So yeah, what a fun weekend. Well, spoiler alert, this will be our first topic, but Megan crushed it. You came back, you won the race, but even more important than that, you felt really good, really empowered. I finished and then went back and got to run the last little bit with you and take some video. And it's just so fun to see you back out there.
1:45.4	I got so excited to see you.
1:46.9	You're there on the Smuggler's Descent, which is this like really smooth, mile and a half. Actually, not really smooth. There's some rocks on there. There were a lot of rocks on there. I recall. I was like, this was super smooth than coming down. I was like, there's more rocks than I remember.
1:42.0	It got rockier in the last few years, I'm sure.
1:44.2	They flew rocks in.
1:46.6	Aspen was just like, you know, we're going to get to the finest quarry in Italy. These are going to be luxury rocks. Aspen would do that. Well, it's actually kind of wild because this course is beautiful. Like, you are in stunning aspen trees and just like the yellow flowers out there. And I was truly actually like racing and also
2:18.7	taking that all in at the same time, which was fun. And then you know you get closer to town often
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