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The Rest Is Classified

27. The Spy Who Betrayed Oppenheimer: Fighting the Nazis (Ep 1)

The Rest Is Classified

Goalhanger

History

4.6732 Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Who was the Russian spy working under Oppenheimer to build the atomic bomb? Why was it so dangerous to be a communist in Nazi Germany? And how did a young science prodigy become one of the most notorious spies in history? Klaus Fuchs was born into a left-wing family at the beginning of the 20th century. Vehemently opposed to the fascist politics of his German homeland during the 1930s, Fuchs flees Hitler's repressive state and finds himself caught up in the horrors of World War Two. When a group of ambitious communists reach out to save him, his life is changed forever. This is the story of the communist spy who infiltrated the Manhattan Project. Listen as Gordon and David begin to tell the fascinating tale of Klaus Fuchs, the atomic spy. ------------------- Order a signed edition of David's latest book, The Seventh Floor, via this link. ------------------- Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ www.nordvpn.com/restisclassified It’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money-back guarantee! Email: [email protected] Twitter: @triclassified Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Callum Hill Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Ten minutes before the scheduled detonation, a green signal rocket was fired into the air

0:42.5

and a siren sounded at base camp, heard by the men on the mountain some seconds later.

0:48.8

They'd been told not to look directly at the blast for fear of being blinded.

0:53.3

They were to turn their backs and welders' goggles had been offered to protect their eyesight.

0:59.3

Now, though, as the test shot became imminent, the urge to see was overwhelming,

1:03.4

and people made sudden last-minute decisions not to wear their goggles,

1:07.3

or to get out of their cars and brave the ultraviolet radiation. A second rocket fired,

1:13.1

and then another blast of the siren, lonely and mournful. Five minutes to go and men who were

1:18.2

used to calculating in nanoseconds were gripped by a stomach churning combination of anxiety

1:23.3

and excitement. Would it work? Five minutes seemed endless, then a final rocket to mark a

1:29.0

minute's countdown. One physicist started to cover his face with thick suntan lotion and put on

1:34.6

heavy gloves to protect his hands from the flash. A shortwave radio squawked into life, and they

1:40.8

heard the last seconds of the countdown. Almost 20 miles away, a bright flash appeared

1:46.0

and grew filling the dark pre-dawn with a penetrating daylight, like the sun at high noon.

1:52.0

A strange globe rose in the sky. Klaus Fuchs later remembered that it seemed alien and magnificent,

2:00.0

with weird flashes of blue and green pulsating

2:03.0

on its surface. Then it expanded and was eclipsed by a huge shockwave. Then they heard the blast,

2:08.8

like the crack of a gun, then duller thunder as echoes crossed the desert and rebounded from the

2:13.9

hills to the east. Everyone was shocked into silence by the site. It had worked.

2:19.1

As they looked up at the giant cloud that rose into the sky, it dawned on them that it was over

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