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W. Empire pod UK.com. Thank you for listening to the Empire Podcast. This particular episode is going to be a little bit gruesome. Yes, that's the word I'm looking for. So advice from

friends because William and I are friends of yours. We get a bit carried away so

I don't listen to this with children. Hello and welcome to Empire with me Anita Arlen.

And me, William De Rumpel.

Now, in the last episode, the superstar who is otherwise known as Mark David Bear,

was talking about Silaman the magnificent

and his failed Ottoman siege of Vienna in 1529.

And you know a lot of historians, Williams, say this is the high watermark of the Ottoman Empire before it stabilized borders with Christian Europe in the decades which followed.

And then it started declining and retreating and going back to its anatonian kernel from whence it came.

But, but, we don't say that, do we, William, we do not say that.

We say something else else don't we?

We don't say that because we like to celebrate what we're going to celebrate on this

episode which is the Battle of LaPanto which I first saw visiting Venice.

There's a fantastic mural of it right across the roof and the walls of the Doge's Palace,

where every sort of episode of the entire battle is replayed by I think

Veranesia or one of those great sort of Venetian painters. And this battle in

1571 is arguably the greatest sea battle ever fought in the Mediterranean.

I mean, it is and I don't take issue with that, but I do take issue with it.

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